S2_EP15 - My Jesus, I Love Thee

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There is no light in the planet but that which proceeds from the sun, and there is no true love to Jesus in the heart but that which comes from the Lord Jesus himself.

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Charles Virgin, this is happening again.

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Oh, hey dad.

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Hey Zoe, so whatcha doing?

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Oh, this is my part.

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I'm co-hosting.

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Oh, you are.

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Of course you need me today.

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Oh, I do, and why is that?

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Hello, you're doing my Jesus.

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I love thee.

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Uh huh, I'm still confused.

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I hear that happens more and more as people your age get older.

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Grounded.

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Dad, I just mean that you need me on this podcast.

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Today's hymn was written by a teenager, and I'm about to be a teenager, so I bring a certain je ne sais quoi.

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That literally means I don't know what.

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Exactly.

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Okay, well, you already did the quote, which, by the way, I like, that one.

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Uh, where'd you find that?

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I'm extremely well read.

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I have amazing parents.

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That is true.

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So now, all I need to say is this is the Bright Forever Q Music.

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Hello and welcome to the Bright Forever where each week we discover the power and richness found in some of the greatest hymns of the faith.

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My name is Zoe Pivilleros and my dad will be our host and guide on this, our adventure through hymnity.

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Nice job, you girls have been on fire.

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I know we totally sway, and without further ado.

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Dad, the mic is now yours.

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Well, all right, here we go.

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By the way, thank you, zoe, that was a great intro and for all of you listening out there, it is wonderful to be back with you again this week, coming off an amazing week, getting to hear from my dad about the timeless Fanny Crosby hymn, blessed Assurance.

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Today, as you can hear, I have another fantastic co-host this week my eldest daughter, zoe Pivilleros.

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Hi, zoe, hi.

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She will be helping me stay on topic as well as giving us her unique insight into our hymn for today.

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Hey, zoe, I'm going to ask you the same thing that I asked Lily what about Gemma?

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Should we, like, have her co-host one?

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I think she could do it now.

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Okay, can you go and get her?

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I'm just kidding.

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No, she's sleeping.

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Oh, good point.

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Well, today we'll be exploring the beloved hymn my Jesus, I Love Thee, a powerful expression of devotion penned by William Ralph Featherston In the 19th century, when he was just in his teens.

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And to tell us her insights into this classic hymn of the church, we will speak to my very special guest, my 12 year old daughter, zoe.

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So, whether you're familiar with the hymn or hearing it for the first time, we hope that as we explore this song, it will stir your heart towards a closer and more intimate relationship with your Savior and Lord.

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The story behind this hymn is as moving as the lyrics themselves.

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William Ralph Featherston was just a teenager when he wrote the poem that Would Become my Jesus, I Love Thee.

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Born in Montreal, canada, july 23, 1846, featherston was the son of a Methodist minister, an Englishman, who had immigrated to Canada.

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As a young man, featherston experienced a deep personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

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As a result of his conversion, he became captivated by the love of God and wanted to express his adoration in words.

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At the tender age of 16, or 12, depending on the stories he penned a poem celebrating his conversion.

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He called it my Jesus, I Love Thee, as a heartfelt declaration of his love for his Savior.

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Featherston's poem was never intended for publication, but years later his poem found its way into the hands of a music publisher who recognized its beauty and potential.

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It said that Featherston's aunt was sent the poem by William and recognized its potential.

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This story is explained by Ira Sanky in his book my Life and Sacred Songs, published in London in 1906.

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Sanky relays what was told to him by Featherston's aunt.

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Some of the dates don't quite add up, but essentially he explains that Featherston either 12, or possibly 16, at the time composed the words to this beautiful hymn that has quote outlived hymn.

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She submitted it for publication and soon after it found its way into the hands of AJ Gordon, a prominent Baptist minister and founder of Gordon College and Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary.

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Also a hymn writer in his own right, gordon was touched by the sincerity of Featherston's words, but felt that the original musical setting didn't do justice to the profound message of the poem.

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So he took it upon himself to compose a new melody that better captured the essence of Featherston's heartfelt declaration of love for Jesus.

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Gordon's new musical arrangement breathed new life into my Jesus, I Love Thee and catapulted it to worldwide acclaim.

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The hymn quickly gained popularity among Christians of all denominations and has since been translated into numerous languages.

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What makes my Jesus, I Love Thee so enduring is its genuine expression of love and devotion to Jesus Christ.

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Featherston's simple yet profound words resonate with believers across generations, reminding us of the deep and abiding love that Christ has for each one of us.

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My Jesus, I Love Thee.

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I know that weren't mine, For Thee are the follies of sin.

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I resign.

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My gracious Redeemer, my Savior art Thou.

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If ever I loved Thee, my Jesus tis now.

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I love Thee because Thou hast first loved me and purchased my pardon on Calvary's tree.

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I love Thee for wearing the thorns on Thy brow.

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If ever I loved Thee, my Jesus tis now.

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I'll love Thee in life.

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I will love Thee in death and praise Thee as long as Thou lendest me breath and say, when the death dew lies cold on my brow if ever I loved Thee, my Jesus tis now.

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In mansions of glory and endless delight.

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I'll ever adore Thee in heaven so bright.

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I'll sing with the glittering crown on my brow.

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If ever I loved Thee, my Jesus tis now.

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And with that, let's hear more about this special hymn from another extraordinary 12-year-old, my daughter Zoe, as she shares her thoughts on my Jesus I love Thee and why she chose to talk about this timeless hymn.

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We are here today with my amazing 12-year-old and that just boggles my mind sometimes, daughter, that she is 12 already and getting older and making me feel older and older every day.

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But we're here with my amazing daughter Zoe.

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How are you doing?

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I'm doing great.

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How about you?

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I'm doing good, so we're talking about my Jesus.

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I love Thee.

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Let's start real simple.

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What does this hymn mean to you personally?

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It reminds me of Christ's grace to me and love towards me, because His loving grace is shown.

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In the second verse.

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It says I love Thee because Thou first lovin' me and purchased my pardon in Calvary's tree.

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I love Thee for wearing the thorns on my brow.

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If ever I loved Thee, my Jesus tis now.

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So the second and the third line just talks about His crucifixion, how he purchased my life so that I can be saved.

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When you say His grace and His love towards you.

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Why are those so important?

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So then I can go to heaven and rejoice with Him all day long.

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Can you share a specific moment or an experience when this hymn had a significant impact on your faith or on your relationship with Jesus?

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Months back, like right after my birthday, my aunt unexpectedly passed away at a young age, and being upset and like just sad about her death, I read this hymn and it reminded me that she's safe in heaven.

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Rejoicing God, that's larger than life.

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What made you think that everything would be okay?

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I know that she accepted Christ into her heart, and in the last verse it says in mansions of glory and endless delight, I'll ever adore thee in heaven so bright, I'll sing with the glittering crown on my brow.

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If ever I love thee.

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My Jesus is now in heaven.

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It's like better than ever.

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That just helps me know that she's in a better place now.

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So how do you interpret the lyrics?

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My Jesus, I love thee, I know thou art mine, in that very first verse.

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Well, when you accept Christ into your heart, you are his and he is yours.

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Isn't that a verse in John dad?

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in John 15.

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John 15.

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John 15, verse 5, says I am the vine, you are the branches.

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Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me, you can do nothing.

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So when it says my Jesus, I love thee, I know thou art mine that we are part of him and he is part of us.

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The hymn talks about loving Jesus because thou hast first loved me.

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How does this idea, this idea that God loved us first, now, how does that understanding affect your own love for Jesus?

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John 3 16 says for God so loved the world, he gave his one and only son, so that Whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

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God gave us a way to love him through his son, jesus.

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Before that, we could like Never love him and others as much as as much as he does with us.

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But because Jesus came into the world, he gave us that pathway in order to love God as much as he's he does us so so You're saying that we could not have loved God like we couldn't have chosen God?

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He had to choose us first.

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He had to love us first.

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He had to show us how to love, how to love in that that sacrificial love.

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By giving his life for us, he showed us how to love, not just to love him, but how to love each other and love each other correctly.

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Absolutely so in what ways does singing or listening to this hymn help you connect with God on a deeper level?

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it gives me a better and deeper like understanding on how to love him as much as he loves us.

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So In like the third, like the second and third verse, well, but mainly in verse 3 you talked about loving him as much as possible, even when death is literally one second away from us.

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I see that because it says in the second line it says and praise thee as long as the land to me read like you're going, like you're going to praise him Until death strikes you.

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Because in line 3 of verse 3 it says and say when the death do lies cold on my brow, if ever I love thee at my, jesus does now.

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So is there anywhere in scripture where it talks about that?

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Isn't that in Philippians 120?

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It is yeah, so like.

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So verse 3 is saying it's kind of echoing what is said in Philippians, chapter 1 we're saying I'm gonna honor you, whether in life, whether in death, however it is, I'm going to honor you, I'm gonna love you, god, no matter what.

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And then he's saying in verse 21 he says For to live is Christ and to die is gain, meaning to live.

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I think it goes into that second line where it says and praise thee as long as thou lendest me breath.

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You're saying as long as I'm alive, for to live is Christ.

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To live I'm gonna keep praising you, I'm gonna keep telling people about you.

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To live is to be in Christ and to be Talking about him and to be praising him and to be giving my life for him.

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So, whether in life or in death, that is it.

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And In life it means praising you, in Death it means I get to be with you.

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Would you agree with that?

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Absolutely, because it's the truth.

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Are there any particular lines or phrases from the hymn that like really resonate with you, like more than any other, and why?

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I absolutely love.

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If ever I love the my Jesus is now Verse one.

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It's basically saying out with the old and with the new, and you're going into a new life and you're resigning from your old life, which is like the follies of sin, the foolish things I've done in my life, and whenever you're going into your new life, it's your new life through Christ.

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And at the end it says if I ever love the, my Jesus is now.

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Like you love Jesus more than you did in the past.

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And in verse two it talks about why we love Jesus and talks about how he was crucified on the cross for so then we can live.

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And at the end of that verse it says if ever I love the, my Jesus is now, which it's more than you did in the first verse, and like you love him, like right now.

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And in verse three it talks about how you love the in life and love the in death and how we can live our life and rejoice in Christ, and even when death is like literally standing right in front of you about to take your life away.

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If ever I love the my Jesus is now More than you did.

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In verse one and two and even before then.

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And in verse four, you're in heaven, you're meeting God face to face, you're rejoicing him in awe.

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And at the end, of course, again it says if ever I love the, my Jesus is now.

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You live him now more than you did in life.

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So it kind of tells a story.

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And hymns like this and I've talked about it on multiple podcasts before how hymns tell stories and I like how you kind of went through and it tells the story of a life from the moment we accept Christ to the moment we see him face to face and that idea of loving him more and more and more and more, that's really good.

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Thanks.

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So what lessons have you learned from my Jesus?

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I love you that you could carry with you into your own faith journey.

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I learned how it tells like more of a story.

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Why do you think stories are so important?

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So then people have like something to talk about, read, just like to not be bored.

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And that's it.

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No, I feel like it kind of might like reflect on their life a bit.

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So stories help to not just tell us something, but they teach us things and they can help us kind of maybe put ourselves into somebody else's shoes, or maybe stories help us understand, maybe concepts that if you just heard somebody tell you about something let's say I told you about well, god loves you and God cares about you.

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But telling a story about how you experience God's love or how you know that God loves you, or you tell a story about it, that story may resonate with somebody and they may go oh wow, I felt like that before too.

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That's really cool that God was able to talk to you in that way or to do something in your life.

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And so stories tend to not just teach us but help us kind of work through things, would you say.

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That's true.

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Absolutely.

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I feel like you can make people like more empathetic through stories.

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So, before we go, and I saved this one for last and I saved this one for last because I know when you and I talked about doing this him, one of the reasons why you were like, oh yeah, that sounds good, is because, featherston, when he wrote this, he was just a teenager.

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And, as someone who is about to be a teenager, do you find it inspiring, do you find it surprising that someone of your age could write something that is so meaningful and that is so timeless, that stood the test of time?

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And how does knowing his age at the time he wrote this affect your understanding or your appreciation for it?

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Well, I really find it inspiring that he was just a teenager and he wrote something this meaningful and powerful in life.

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And knowing that kids my age and older they're too lazy to do anything, they're usually just on their phones looking up stuff on YouTube.

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People your age on phones.

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Yes.

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Spending time on mindless entertainment, what that can't possibly be true.

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You don't do that right.

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I don't have a phone, so no, oh good, good, you must have really good parents.

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Yeah, totally.

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But you do have an iPad.

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Yeah, I do have an iPad.

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I also do stupid stuff on it too.

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Thank you, I have that on record now.

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Thank you.

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Oh my gosh.

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So what do you think the difference between Featherston and the as a teenager way back then in the 1800s, and you today, what are?

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Or teenage, not to say you, let's say teenagers, just your age group, that that, that age from about 12 to 19, like that age.

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What exactly is so different between him being a teenager then and you being one now?

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And is it just that we have a lot more technology and a lot more things to to distract us?

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I feel like because of a lot of technology like I feel like that kind of distracts us and like putting our idle soft phones, tablets, computers, pod I'm just kidding.

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I feel like because of that we kind of put like an idle, like we put that as our idle instead of God being our idle.

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Yeah, so technology-wise, there's a lot more idle manufacturing happening in our lives with cell phones, with wanting to be liked or hearted on Instagram or see the latest TikTok video or be and I know this is making me old get a, get a like on Facebook.

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Because I know yeah, I know, see, I'm getting eye rolls just for saying the word Facebook, because Facebook's like so old people it's all about.

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It's all about TikTok and Instagram and Snapchat.

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Twitter.

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Yeah, or well, it's called X, now X.

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That's right.

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I know that part, because we are on X.

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Yeah, you're Gen X, no the podcast.

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Yes, I know, I'm Gen X.

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Thank you very much.

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X, because people who use it are Gen X.

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Wow, wow, okay.

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Well, that's all the time I have for you today.

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I really do think that people your age I think that teenagers though there are a lot more distractions and there's a lot more out there for you to mindlessly surround your life with I think that teenagers have the ability to think like this.

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I think teenagers have the ability to write songs like this and to write poems like this that can stand the test of time.

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That just because you have technology, just because you have a lot of distractions at your fingertips, I don't necessarily think it in any way stops you from thinking in a deep way, thinking critically and thinking deeply.

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But you've got to be willing to think deeply.

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Even the students I teach that's probably the hardest thing to teach them is how to think, how to sit down and read something and think about it, or to sit down and really contemplate what does something mean and why do I believe what I believe and why do I think the way I think and how do I change that or how do I fix that.

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And I'm not saying that you can't.

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I honestly think the potential to write a song like this, to write a classic song like this, is there.

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I think you could do this.

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I think anybody could do this.

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It's a question of will you or will you take the time to Do you think that's true?

00:28:05,298 --> 00:28:05,959
Absolutely.

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Why do you think so many people aren't willing to put in the time?

00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,244
Because they are lazy.

00:28:16,244 --> 00:28:18,914
They are lazy bums.

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Does that include you?

00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:27,346
A little bit Sometimes.

00:28:28,335 --> 00:28:31,282
I think we all can be lazy bum sometimes.

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Results may vary.

00:28:37,737 --> 00:28:38,778
True, very good point.

00:28:38,778 --> 00:28:41,865
Well, I love this hymn.

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I have loved my Jesus.

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I love the four times.

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I've loved my Jesus more than ever.

00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:53,874
I've loved my Jesus more than ever.

00:28:53,874 --> 00:28:57,930
Thank you for being on the podcast.

00:28:59,454 --> 00:29:00,178
You're welcome.

00:29:01,643 --> 00:29:01,903
Awesome.

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Thank you, goodbye.

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Jesus is now.

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I love thee because thou hast first love at me and purchased my pardon on Calvary's tree.

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I love thee for wearing the thorns on thy brow.

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If ever I love thee, my Jesus is now.

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I love thee in life.

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I will love thee in death and praise thee as long as thou lendest me breath and say when the death do lies cold on my brow.

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If ever I love thee, my Jesus is now.

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In mansions of glory and endless delight.

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I'll ever adore thee in heaven, so bright, I'll sing with a glittering crown on my brow.

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If ever I love thee, my Jesus is now.

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I'll ever adore thee in heaven, so bright.

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That was my Jesus.

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I Love Thee.

00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:51,065
By Red Mountain Church Music From their 2003 release Depth of Mercy, a Red Mountain Church hymn project.

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For more information about this album, check out the album credits in the show notes for this episode.

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You can find Depth of Mercy and many other albums from Red Mountain Church Music on their website, wwwRedMountainChurchMusiccom, and the Red Mountain Church Collective on wwwHymCollectiveorg.

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So what do you think about that song?

00:34:22,846 --> 00:34:27,277
One thing I have to say that harmony was perfect, Spot on.

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Well, would you like to come back again?

00:34:35,056 --> 00:34:35,336
Sure.

00:34:36,065 --> 00:34:38,273
What hymn would you like to do next time?

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Greatest Thy faithfulness.

00:34:41,114 --> 00:34:42,119
I love that one.

00:34:42,161 --> 00:34:42,925
Greatest Thy faithfulness.

00:34:42,925 --> 00:34:44,188
That's a good hymn.

00:34:44,188 --> 00:34:46,315
I like Greatest Thy faithfulness.

00:34:46,574 --> 00:34:47,077
Me too.

00:34:47,965 --> 00:34:52,474
Well, thank you again for being on, and maybe next time we'll be able to do Greatest.

00:34:52,474 --> 00:34:53,115
Thy faithfulness.

00:34:54,458 --> 00:34:54,719
Okay.

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00:36:00,306 --> 00:36:02,172
I also designed a shirt.

00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:03,394
You did.

00:36:03,394 --> 00:36:07,425
You designed a shirt and I think, a lunchbox too, right.

00:36:07,525 --> 00:36:10,726
Yeah, a lunchbox is basically the same as a shirt, though yeah.

00:36:11,327 --> 00:36:14,914
Actually I think uh, didn't you design two shirts?

00:36:15,635 --> 00:36:16,137
No, just one.

00:36:16,458 --> 00:36:16,757
Just one.

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Thank you again for listening and I hope you all have an amazing week.

00:37:16,853 --> 00:37:21,309
Before we go, zoe, would you like to close us out in prayer?

00:37:21,931 --> 00:37:22,211
Sure.

00:37:23,014 --> 00:37:23,355
Go for it.

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Lord, thank you for today, Thank you for this amazing hymn.

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Hope each of us to remember that we are loved by you because you loved us first and we can love you more and more each and every day.

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Give us each an amazing week and bring us back next week to hear more from you.

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Thank you for who you are and we pray all in this in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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God bless you all.

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Have a great week and we'll see you back here next week.

00:37:58,208 --> 00:37:58,869
Hey, hey, hey.

00:37:59,431 --> 00:37:59,672
What.

00:38:00,554 --> 00:38:05,385
I started this, so I think I should end this, don't you think?

00:38:06,786 --> 00:38:10,349
Oh, okay, just let me say we're out.

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Yeah.

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